The downing
of a Russian military plane by Turkish forces has introduced another
layer of complication to the Syrian crisis and raised fears over possible
escalation and the potential for a direct conflict between the US and Russia.
To
get the Turkish perspective on this incident, I spoke with Steven A. Cook, the
Eni Enrico Mattei senior fellow for Middle East and Africa Studies at the
Council on Foreign Relations, about why the Turkish military would take such
dramatic action and what this could mean for the future of Turkish-Russian
relations and Turkey's policy toward Syria. What follows is a transcript of my
conversation with Cook, lightly edited for length and clarity.
Jennifer
R. Williams: Why
would the Turkish military shoot down a Russian warplane?
Steven
A. Cook: The
Russians have been taunting the Turks. They have violated Turkish airspace on
at least two previous occasions. It was humiliating and had the potential to
become a political problem for the Turkish leadership. Obviously they felt that
they had to protect their sovereignty and believed they had NATO's backing to
do so.
Jennifer
R. Williams: How
could this affect Turkish policy toward Syria?
Steven
A. Cook: I don't
think it will alter Turkey's approach dramatically. They will continue to
support Turkmen, coordinate with select extremist groups, and try to prevent
the emergence of "Western Kurdistan." I imagine that the Russians
will try to make the Turks pay in some way, but Moscow is already targeting
people on Turkey's side of the fight there.
Jennifer
R. Williams: What
does it mean for Turkish-Russian relations?
Steven
A. Cook: Well, it
adds a new dimension to relations, which up until now the leaders of both
countries have been able to compartmentalize. The fact that Russia supports
Assad and Turkey is a leading advocate of regime change in Syria did not
disrupt commercial ties, for example. There will be a lot of hot rhetoric from
Moscow, especially, and there is a risk of escalation, but cooler heads are
likely to prevail.
Jennifer
R. Williams: What
role do the ethnic Turkmen play in all this in terms of their importance to
Turkey and Erdogan's willingness to protect them?
Steven
A. Cook: The
Turkmen are the card that Turkey plays when it wants to get involved in
something or [convince] its allies to do something. Turkey's position on Kirkuk
and other Iraq issues were often tied to the Turkmen, though they were just
convenient for Ankara.
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